Mad Sweeney

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  Did you ever "feel" the holy spirt "apon you"?

  by highdose in

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  some jw's claimed that when they were out door to door that they could feel the angels guiding them and jehovahs spirt apon them.. others claimed this when having prayed felt a sense of calm afterwards.

  self induced?

  physcological suggestion?.

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  That claim of spirit-direction is what helped me on the path to leaving the Borg. I had told some friends what I thought of the local body of elders' idiotic decision about something and I was soon brought in the back room and told all about how not only does holy spirit direct the body, Jesus Christ HIMSELF does, too. I knew it was bullshit because I knew they made a WRONG decision, which Jesus and the HS would never do.

  That was the chink in the armor. I thereafter allowed myself to research and read ANYthing about the WT and the rest is history. I was out within three years.

  As for personally feeling it, early in my exodus, while I was working on helping my wife and daughter and planning a fade, I was still very spiritual and thought I felt the holy spirit a couple times. Looking back, I am still not sure what it was but I lean toward a psychological phenomenon more than anything from outside of me. Whatever it was, I know it was NOT the HS as represented by the WTBTS.
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  Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012

  by Gladring in

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  the april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.

  good that can come when a family loyally.

  upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.

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  I wonder whether there is anything to the numbers game they claim. Do more DFd people return because of shunning? Or do more people leave because of hateful shunning policies? I have to think that even though a few might return to the Borg just to be with family many more leave because the Borg has so many of these pharisaical hateful rules and the vast number of DFd stay OUT.
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  What happened to Milton Henschel losing presidency?

  by Band on the Run in

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  2. experiences

  my family often spoke well of milton henschel.

  i left when knorr was still president.

  looking at the flimiest of personal infos for gb members, i noticed that henschel became president and then was demoted and don adams became president.

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  Mad Sweeney

  Each GB Committee had a rotating chairman but permanent coordinator as of the 1975 GB coup. Maybe that's what you're thinking of, Miz. See page 105, footnote 20 of the chapter Internal Upheaval and Restructure.
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  Freddie Mercury

  by stillin in

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  it's ridiculous that people compare him to god.

  i mean, he is good, but he's no freddie mercury..

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  Mad Sweeney

  Butch Walker is his understudy. No Freddie Mercury but damn close.
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  Israelities so easily influenced by foreign Gods, Why.

  by jam in

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  god delivered the israelities to the promise land.. he shield them from egypt army, fed them in the.

  wilderness, open the sea and aided them in.

  defeating their enemies.. joshua:24;16 "far be it from us that we should.

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  What sir82 says. I would add to that that it was mostly put together as a text during and after the exile in Babylon. It was done methodically with hindsight BY YHWH supporters. In reality, evidence shows that they were just as polytheistic as any other nation of the world at that time.
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  Musing about a New National Anthem That Says More Than: Something About A Flag Still Waving.

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. friends

  what do you think should this 1814 ditty, be thrown in the scrap heap and be replaced by something far nobler than words about a skirmish with the mother land and keeping the republic emblem flapping in the breeze?.

  what say yea?

  personally i think there are much more nobler things that could be incorporated into a national anthem that would have a much more tremendous uplift for the nation,,and wish that some really talented enlightened poets and composers would put out there and perhaps in some not to future date be adopted.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_star-spangled_banner.

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  I'm a big fan of "O Canada."

  "America - F-Yeah!" from Team America: World Police should be our national anthem in the USA.
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  Motives for starting the lie of Watchtower Authority.

  by marriedtoajw in

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  2. experiences

  i have yet to come across anyones opinions, jw or not, of the personal motives of the leaders of the org.

  to perpetuate what i guess we all would call the lie of the watchtoer authority.

  in my opinion, i think that russell was an athiest out to show how easy it is to decieve people using the bible.

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  I believe Russell was sincere but deluded. Rutherford was an opportunist who maybe sort-of believed in some of the doctrine but religion and truth were secondary to his own ego. Since then we have had a Rutherford mini-me in Knorr who by most accounts was a businessman more than a religious leader. Then there was the insane oracle of "Crazy" Freddie Franz who believed every word he ever wrote, even when they contradicted previous words. Henschel was a captive to the concepts built by his predecessors who rode the status quo until his death, and that was the end of the religious significance of the president of the Borg.
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  I feel ethically compromised by Rick Fearon being allowed to continue posting here

  by sabastious in

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  i'm not entirely sure why, but rick has been the biggest trigger for me.

  i have said some very mean things to him that i regret and i apologize to rick for them.

  but what he is doing leaves me feeling dirty and i don't even know him.

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  Mad Sweeney

  You mean you guys AREN'T posting from a round rubber room? I'm the only one?
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  what is the history of this site?

  by tornapart in

  1. jw
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  hi, i just wanted to know as i came here believing it is an 'anti-jw' site.

  or at least one where former jws can meet together (or ones struggling within the wt).

  yet looking at some early posts it seems it was originally for active jws.

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  Mad Sweeney

  This place is the Wild West of Ex-JWs on the Internet and I LOVE IT that way.

  There are places for more highbrow discussion. There are places more focused on support and recovery. But NO place has EVERYTHING like THIS place has.
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  Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

  i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

  last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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  Mad Sweeney

  They are taught that "illustrations" make your point clearer. They aren't taught that it doesn't work if your point is WRONG.